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The National for Thursday, March 19 — COVID-19 test concerns, Ottawa’s pandemic plan


(*)>>Adrienne: GOOD EVENING, I’M ADRIENNE ARSENAULT.>>Andrew: AND I’M ANDREW CHANG. TONIGHT, HOW LONG CAN THESE EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES TO STOP THE CORONAVIRUS LAST?>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: WE HAVE HEARD ANYTHING FROM WEEKS TO MONTHS.>>Andrew: FROM TRAVEL BANS TO CLOSURES. IS THIS THE NEW REALITY? “AT ISSUE” ON OTTAWA’S PANDEMIC RESPONSE.>>SHE SAID THEY WERE DECLINING TO TEST ME. SHE NEVER GAVE A REASON.>>Adrienne: WHY SOME SICK PEOPLE AREN’T GETTING TESTED FOR COVID-19 AND THOSE WHO ARE WAIT DAYS FOR AN ANSWER.>>IF I GET CORONA, I GET CORONA.>>Andrew: THEY HAVE THOUGHT THEY WERE NOT VULNERABLE BUT YOUNG ADULTS ARE ENDING UP IN HOSPITAL.>>Adrienne: WILL THE GAMES GO ON?>>THEY’RE PUTTING SPORT ABOVE HEALTH AND HUMANITY.>>Adrienne: ATHLETES SPEAK OUT AFTER THEY’RE TOLD TO FIND A WAY TO KEEP TRAINING.>>>THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” (*)>>>CANADA’S AGGRESSIVE COVID-19 CONTAINMENT MEASURES WERE INTENDED TO HELP TO KEEP THE VIRUS OUT, BUT FOR MANY AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO KEEP THEM STUCK INSIDE WITH THEIR WORRY AND STRESS.>>Andrew: AND WHILE THE PRIME MINISTER TRIES TO REASSURE CANADIANS, HE IS WARNING THAT THIS COULD GO ON FOR SOME TIME, EVEN WEEKS, EVEN MONTHS.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE WORRIED WHAT THE DAYS AND THE WEEKS AHEAD HOLD. BUT THERE’S NO DOUBT THAT THESE ARE UNCERTAIN TIMES.>>Andrew: WELL, LET’S TAKE YOU THROUGH THE NUMBERS. MORE THAN 870 CASES ACROSS CANADA NOW, WITH BIG JUMPS IN FOUR PROVINCES. THERE ARE 40 NEW CASES IN B.C., WHERE AN EIGHTH PERSON HAS ALSO DIED. ALBERTA HAS 27 NEW CASES AND ITS FIRST DEATH. IN ONTARIO, A SECOND DEATH, AND 44 NEW INFECTIONS. AND IN QUÉBEC, THEY RECORDED 27 NEW CASES. ACROSS THE COUNTRY AT LEAST 12 CANADIANS HAVE NOW DIED. AS THOSE NUMBERS INCREASE SO DO THE QUESTIONS AND THE CONCERNS ABOUT TESTING. WE’RE HEARING MORE AND MORE FROM SICK CANADIANS WHO SAY THAT THEY’RE BEING TOLD THEY CAN’T GET A TEST. VIK ADHOPIA LOOKS INTO WHY THAT IS.>>Reporter: COVID-19 IS SURGING IN SPAIN, 11,000 CASES. SO WHEN LENNY SELECK RETURNED FROM THERE WITH COLD SYMPTOMS LAST WEEK SHE CALLED HER DOCTOR’S OFFICE RIGHT AWAY.>>THE DOCTOR TRIAGED ME OVER THE PHONE AND SAID, YES, I FIT THE PROTOCOL FOR TESTING.>>Reporter: THEN THE RETIRED CBC PRODUCER CALLED THIS HOSPITAL TO ARRANGE FOR A TEST.>>SHE SAID THEY WERE DECLINING TO TEST ME. SHE NEVER GAVE A REASON.>>Reporter: WITH MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TESTING POSITIVE FOR COVID-19 IN CANADA, WAIT TIMES FOR TEST RESULTS ARE GETTING LONGER AND A WORLD SUPPLY OF A CHEMICAL COMPOUND USED IN LABS IS RUNNING LOW. SO IN SOME PLACES THAT CHANGES WHO QUALIFIES FOR A TEST. CBC NEWS HAS OBTAINED A COPY OF NEW TRIAGING CRITERIA THAT ONE TORONTO HOSPITAL IS NOW USING. IT ADVISES AGAINST TESTING PEOPLE WHO DON’T NEED URGENT CARE OR AREN’T PREGNANT. THIS E.R. DOCTOR IN ANOTHER HOSPITAL IN TORONTO, SAID THAT CERTAIN HEALTH CARE AND INSTITUTIONAL WORKERS WILL ALSO GET TESTED.>>THESE ARE GROUPS THAT WE WANT TO TEST BECAUSE WE WORRY ABOUT THE RISK IF THEY DO HAVE THE INFECTION.>>Reporter: REDUCING TESTING HAS RISKS. SOUTH KOREA, TAIWAN AND HUBEI PROVINCE ARE CREDITED WITH CONTROLLING THEIR OUTBREAKS WITH AGGRESSIVE TESTING, NOT BY RATIONING IT.>>THEY HAVE BEEN TESTING CONTINUOUSLY, INCLUDING ALL CONTACTS, AND THERE’S ALSO — THEY ALSO HAVE BEEN STARTING TO SURVEY THE GENERAL POPULATION TO GET A SENSE OF THE LEVEL OF COMMUNITY SPREAD.>>Reporter: THIS SCIENTIST SAYS THAT IT’S TIME TO CALL IN RESEARCH AT UNIVERSITY LABS TO HELP TO CLEAR THE BACKLOG OF TESTS IN CANADA.>>I THINK THAT WE’RE IN EMERGENCY TIMES AND WE SHOULD DO THIS SAFELY BUT EXPEDITE WHEN WE CAN. THE MOLECULAR AND BIOLOGY LABS AROUND THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE ITCHING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS EFFORT.>>Reporter: FOR PEOPLE LIKE LANI SELICK WHO HAVE MODERATE SYMPTOMS AND CAN’T GET A TEST, HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE THE SAME ADVICE — STAY HOME. VIK ADHOPIA, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Adrienne: A SENSE OF SECURITY MAY BE DISAPPEARING FOR PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THAT THEIR AGE WOULD MAKE COVID-19 A MINOR CONCERN. ONTARIO’S SECOND FATALITY LINKED TO THE VIRUS IS A MAN IN HIS 50s AND A REPORT HAS RAISED CONCERN BY REVEALING JUST HOW MANY SERIOUS U.S. CASES INVOLVE PEOPLE EVEN YOUNGER. ELLEN MAURO LOOKED INTO THE REAL RISKS.>>Reporter: CANADIAN CARMEN LEE IS ENJOYING THE SPANISH SEASIDE EARLIER THIS MONTH. THE NEXT WEEK THE 23-YEAR-OLD WAS AT A BARCELONA HOSPITAL, DIAGNOSED WITH COVID-19.>>I HAD SOME DISCOMFORT BREATHING AND SPEAKING. AND I JUST HAD A HIGH FEVER AND I WAS REALLY STRUGGLING WITH SOME OF THE LUNG ISSUES.>>Reporter: LEE WORKING AS AN AUPAIR IN SPAIN ISN’T ALONE AS A YOUNG PERSON HIT HARD BY THE DISEASE. OF THE FIRST 500 PEOPLE HOSPITALIZED IN THAT COUNTRY WITH COVID-19, 38% OF THEM WERE BETWEEN 20 AND 54 YEARS OLD. OF THOSE ADMITTED TO INTENSIVE CARE, 12% WERE BETWEEN 20 AND 44 YEARS OLD. THE NUMBERS SHOW THE CORONAVIRUS ISN’T JUST DANGEROUS FOR THE ELDERLY. STILL, THESE SPRING BREAKERS WERE BREAKING ALL THE RULES, CHOOSING SOCIAL LIVES OVER SOCIAL DISTANCING.>>IF I GET CORONA, I GET CORONA. AT THE END OF THE DAY I’M NOT GOING TO LET IT STOP ME FROM PARTYING.>>I’M WORRIED FOR THE OLDER PEOPLE, BUT NOT FOR ME.>>Reporter: THOUGH OLDER ADULTS ARE MOST AT RISK, THE SOBERING STATISTICS, THIS DOCTOR SAYS, MEANS THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE CONCERNED.>>NOT ONLY CAN IT AFFECT YOU AND TAKE YOUR LIFE, IT COULD TAKE THE LIFE OF SOMEONE THAT YOU CARE ABOUT.>>Reporter: NOT ONLY THAT, BUT A SURGE IN CASES COULD OVERWHELM THE FRONTLINE DOCTORS.>>THIS COULD HAPPEN VERY FAST. WE COULD REACH OR EXCEED CAPACITY VERY QUICKLY.>>Reporter: LEE HAS SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW SICK THE YOUNG CAN GET.>>I HAVE FRIENDS HERE WHO HAVE BEEN IN MORE SERIOUS SITUATIONS AND YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT INVINCIBLE TO THIS. ANY PERSON AT ANY AGE CAN DEVELOP PNEUMONIA AND IT CAN BE SEVERE.>>Reporter: LEE IS NOW WAITING FOR HER SYMPTOMS TO FULLY SUBSIGN, AND LIFE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO BEGIN AGAIN. ELLEN MAURO, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Adrienne: FOR MORE ON THIS LET’S TURN ONCE MORE TO DR. ISSAC BOGOCH, THE INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST. WE HAVE BEEN RELYING ON YOU FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE KEEP HEARING, DOCTOR, THAT OLDER PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WITH COMPROMISED IMMUNE SYSTEMS ARE THE ONES OF AT RISK OF GETTING SERIOUSLY ILL. BUT YOU HEAR A STORY LIKE THAT, HAS THAT CHANGED?>>NOT REALLY. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE DATA IS STILL PRETTY STRONG THAT THE OLDER PEOPLE ARE THE GREATER RISK THEY HAVE FOR HAVING A MORE SEVERE OUTCOME AND A MORE SEVERE COURSE OF THIS INFECTION. THERE’S EXCELLENT DATA FROM ITALY AND CHINA AND EVEN EMERGING FROM THE UNITED STATES. THAT IF WE LOOK, YOU KNOW, SADLY THE OUTCOME OF EITHER LIFE OR DEATH, AND DEATH IS OVERWHELMINGLY REPRESENTED IN PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 60. NOW, OF COURSE, PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 60, IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT THEY’RE GOING TO SUCCUMB TO THIS ILLNESS, IT MEANS THAT THEY’RE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE LIKELY TO HAVE A MORE CHALLENGING COURSE, COMPARED TO YOUNGER INDIVIDUALS.>>Adrienne: SO SHOULD THIS INFORMATION THOUGH THAT WE’RE HEARING OUT OF THE UNITED STATES, FOR EXAMPLE, CHANGE HOW OUR BEHAVIOURS SHOULD BE?>>NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. I THINK THAT THE SAME RULES APPLY IF YOU’RE 15, IF YOU’RE 55, OR IF YOU’RE 105. WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT SOCIAL DISTANCING MEASURES AND THESE ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. SO PEOPLE SHOULD AVOID LARGE GATHERINGS AND THEY SHOULD BE WORKING FROM HOME. THEY SHOULD JUST BE SPREADING APART TO REALLY REDUCE AN INDIVIDUAL’S LIKELIHOOD OF ACQUIRING THIS INFECTION AND TO REDUCE THE TRANSMISSION IN THE COMMUNITY.>>Adrienne: OKAY, DR. BOGOCH THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HELPING US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON.>>ANYTIME.>>Andrew: NOW ALL OF THESE PREVENTION EFFORTS ARE CERTAINLY AFFECTING CANADIANS’ ABILITY TO EARN A LIVING. SOME ARE ALREADY AT THE FINANCIAL BRINK. BUT AGAIN TODAY THE PRIME MINISTER PROMISED HELP IS COMING.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS — WE ARE GIVING YOU MORE HELP WHEN YOU NEED IT. IF YOU’RE A PARENT, WE’RE HERE FOR YOU, JUST LIKE FOR THE SINGLE MOM OF TWO WHO WILL GET NEARLY $1,500 BY THE END OF MAY BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN THE CANADA CHILD BENEFIT AND THE G.S.T. CREDIT. IF YOU’RE WORRIED ABOUT MAKING ENDS MEET, WE’VE GOT YOUR BACK.>>Andrew: THAT ASSISTANCE WILL NOT BE IMMEDIATE, HOWEVER. THE GOVERNMENT SAID THAT THE EXTRA MONEY WILL NOT STOP — START FLOWING FOR TWO TO THREE WEEKS. THAT’S THE TRICKY PART. THE MEASURES THAT TRUDEAU ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK AMOUNT TO TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR SUPPORT FOR BUSINESSES, WORKERS AND FAMILIES. BUT FARRAH MERALI SPOKE TO WORKERS WHO FEAR THAT IT WILL BE TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE.>>HI, WELCOME.>>Reporter: PERSONAL TRAINING HAS BEEN DAVE’S LIFE FOR 10 YEARS. THESE DAYS IT’S HARD TO PUT ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF THE OTHER, WITH HIS BUSINESS SO DRY.>>THEY DON’T WANT PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE HOME OR THEY DON’T WANT TO GO OUT OF THE HOME. SO IT’S BEEN HARD TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THE INCOME THAT’S COMING IN.>>Reporter: THE FATHER OF TWO HAS A WIFE, A MORTGAGE, AND TWO YOUNG KIDS. HE IS SELF-EMPLOYED AND NOT ELIGIBLE FOR E.I. AND IS NOW ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR MORE DETAILS WITH THE GOVERNMENT’S EMERGENCY SUPPORT BENEFIT FOR PEOPLE LIKE HIM.>>EVERY DAY NECESSITIES LIKE FOOD, UTILITIES, STUFF LIKE THAT — SO IT’S A LITTLE UNEASY BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW WHEN I’M GOING TO BE ABLE TO APPLY. AND IS THERE A TWO-WEEK WAITING PERIOD? IT WILL BE A DIRECT DEPOSIT BUT HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE?>>The Hon. Bill Morneau: OUR GOAL IS TO GET MONEY INTO PEOPLE’S HANDS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WITHOUT ACCESS TO EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND TO DO THERE IN TWO TO THREE WEEKS.>>Reporter: BUT EVEN THOSE WITH ACCESS TO EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE WORRY THAT IT WON’T GO FAR ENOUGH.>>E.I. PROVIDES YOU WITH ABOUT 50% OF YOUR WAGE. BUT AS A SERVER, YOUR PAYCHEQUE IS ABOUT 50% OF YOUR EARNINGS. SO WE WILL BE GETTING ABOUT A QUARTER OF OUR TYPICAL EARNINGS.>>Reporter: AND SHE WAS RECENTLY LAID OFF AS A SERVER AT WHAT IS TYPICALLY A BUSTLING PUB. THE BULK OF HER EARNINGS CAME FROM TIPS. FEARS OVER THE CORONAVIRUS HAD ALREADY BEEN DRIVING CUSTOMERS AWAY FOR WEEKS, MAKING IT HARD TO SAVE.>>MY HOUSEHOLD IS ALL SERVERS AND BARTENDERS. SO THERE’S THREE OF US WHO LIVE THERE. AND WE’VE ALL BEEN LAID OFF. AND WE HAVE BEEN WAITING AND WAITING TO SEE IF WE’D BE TALKED TO BY OUR LANDLORD AND WE’VE HAD NO INFORMATION. WE ARE IN AN AWKWARD POSITION OF DO WE ASK, DO WE WAIT?>>Reporter: FOR THE UNCERTAINTY AND ANXIETY THERE MAY BE NO RELIEF IN SIGHT. THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS HAVE SIGNALLED THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING COULD CONTINUE FOR WEEKS AND EVEN MONTHS LATER. FARRAH MERALI, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Adrienne: AS COVID-19 SPREADS, WORKERS IN NOVA SCOTIA ARE FACING A TEMPORARY SHUTDOWN AT ONE OF THE PROVINCE’S MAJOR EMPLOYERS — IRVING SHIPBUILDING. THE COMPANY IS LAYING OFF 1,100 EMPLOYEES. THAT’S A BULK OF ITS WORKFORCE FOR THREE WEEKS, CITING ABSENTEEISM AND TROUBLE WITH SUPPLIERS. IRVING IS WORKING ON FEDERAL CONTRACTS TO SUPPLY NAVAL SHIPS WORTH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.>>>AND CBC NEWS LEARNED THAT THOUSAND OF CABIN CREW WORKING FOR AIR CANADA ARE EXPECTING BIG LAYOFFS. IN A LETTER SENT TO STAFF, THE AIRLINE SAYS FLIGHTS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL ARE DOWN 80% FROM USUAL AS DEMAND DROPS AND GOVERNMENTS TELL PEOPLE NOT TO TRAVEL. AIR CANADA ROUGE WON’T BE FLYING AT ALL. MORE THAN 5,000 EMPLOYEES WILL TEMPORARILY BE OUT OF WORK.>>>IN ALBERTA THE ECONOMIC SHOCK IS FOR SOME FRIGHTENING.
.>>>IN ALBERTA THE ECONOMIC SHOCK IS FOR SOME FRIGHTENING. IN A MATTER OF DAYS THE PRICE OF OIL SANDS CRUDE HAS SIMPLY COLLAPSED. CAROLYN DUNN HAS THE REACTION FROM A PROVINCE FEELING SUDDEN PAIN THAT COULD RAPIDLY SPREAD TO THE REST OF CANADA.>>Reporter: FILLING UP THESE DAYS IS LIKE GOING BACK IN TIME. GAS PRICES THE LOWEST THEY’VE BEEN IN MORE THAN A DECADE.>>IT’S CRAZY LOW RIGHT NOW. IT’S INSANE.>>Reporter: BUT DON’T EXPECT THE CONSUMERS TO CELEBRATE, AT LEAST NOT IN ALBERTA.>>I AM RATHER WORRIED ABOUT HOW THE CALGARY ECONOMY IS GOING TO GO FROM HERE.>>I MEAN, EVERYBODY IS SUFFERING RIGHT NOW, SO, DEFINITELY, YEAH, IT’S GOING TO TAKE A TOLL.>>Reporter: JUST ASK BOB PELZER. HE’S CUT STAFF HOURS AT HIS GAS STATION BY TWO-THIRDS AND HE’S PAYING OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET TO KEEP THE DOORS OPEN.>>SOME OF THE FUEL IN OUR GROUND WE ARE LOSING OVER SIX CENTS A LITRE SO WE’RE PAYING PEOPLE TO BUY OUR FUEL.>>Reporter: THERE’S A DOUBLE WHAMMY DRIVING GLOBAL OIL PRICES DOWN. SAUDI ARABIA AND RUSSIA ARE IN A PRICE WAR THAT’S FLOODING THE MARKET WITH CHEAP OIL AND THE CORONAVIRUS IS DRIVING DEMAND DOWN. SHOCKINGLY FAST. RUSH HOUR REDUCED TO A TRICKLE AS PEOPLE STAY HOME FROM WORK AND SOCIAL ACTIVITIES.>>WE HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN THE HISTORY OF OUR ENERGY INDUSTRY, BUT LAYERED ON TOP OF A MASSIVE GLOBAL CONTRACTION IN DEMAND, AND LAYERED ON TOP OF FIVE YEARS OF ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL FRAGILITY, MR. SPEAKER, WE ARE FACING A PERIOD OF PROFOUND ADVERSITY.>>Reporter: FORMER M.P. TURNED PETROLEUM ANALYST DAN McTEAGUE SAYS THAT ONLY A PRICE BOUNCEBACK FOLLOWED BY A STABLE MARKET WILL STAVE OFF ECONOMIC CALAMITY, AND NOT JUST IN ALBERTA.>>OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS FOR THE CANADIAN ECONOMY. AND I THINK THAT 2020 LOOKS LIKE A YEAR THAT WILL BE A WRITEOFF AS WE CONTINUE TO GO INTO WHAT APPEARS TO BE A DEEPER AND DEEPER RECESSION.>>Reporter: A STEEP PRICE TO PAY FOR CHEAP GAS. CAROLYN DUNN, CBC NEWS, CALGARY.>>Andrew: SO COVID-19 IS HAVING A MAJOR IMPACT AS EACH PROVINCE AND CITY STEPS UP MEASURES TO MANAGE THE VIRUS. ANITA BATHE IS TRACKING THE STORIES FROM COMMUNITIES ACROSS CANADA.>>Reporter: ANDREW, LET’S START IN ONTEAR WHERE M.P.P.s RETURNED TO PARLIAMENT TO PASS EMERGENCY LEGISLATION TO GIVE RELIEF THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC. THAT MEANS HELPING TO KEEP THE GROCERY STORES AND PHARMACIES FULLY STOCKED.>>RIGHT NOW MUNICIPAL NOISE BY-LAWS PREVENT THEM FROM ACCEPTING DELIVERIES AT CERTAIN HOURS. SO WE’RE GOING TO BRING TEMPORARY CHANGES TO ALLOW THEM TO ACCEPT DELIVERIES 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.>>Reporter: PREMIER DOUG FORD IS REASSURING THAT THERE IS SUPPLY IN PLACE SO THERE’S NO NEED TO PANIC. THERE IS, HOWEVER, CONCERN ABOUT SUPPLIES IN ONTARIO HOSPITALS. A GROUP OF TORONTO RESEARCHERS HAS FORECASTED THAT THE PROVINCE WILL RUN OUT OF VENTILATORS AND INTENSIVE CARE BEDS IN JUST 37 DAYS. THEY SAY THAT THIS WOULD STILL HAPPEN EVEN IF THE CURRENT RATE OF COVID-19 IS CUT IN HALF. MOVING OVER TO QUÉBEC, THE PREMIER IS ASKING PEOPLE TO STOP MOVING AROUND THE PROVINCE, AVOIDING ALL NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL FROM ONE REGION TO ANOTHER.>>RIGHT NOW IT’S IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT THAT THERE’S NO POSSIBILITY SHORT TERM TO CLOSE A REGION, BUT WE SAW IN OTHER COUNTRIES THAT IT WAS SUCCESSFUL TO DO SO. IF YOU HAVE MAIN CASE MANY CASES IN A SPECIFIC AREA.>>Reporter: AND THE FAMILY OF THE FIRST QUÉBECER TO DIE FROM COVID-19 IS PLEADING FOR PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO THE WARNINGS. MARIETTE TREMBLAY WAS LIVING IN A SENIORS’ HOME NORTHEAST OF MONTRÉAL. THE 82-YEAR-OLD GOT THE VIRUS FROM A VISITOR WHO HAD COME FROM OVERSEAS. HER FAMILY SAYS THAT THEY HOPE THAT HER DEATH WILL HELP SAVE LIVES. SHOW GOOD CITIZENSHIP, SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND STAY HOME. WE DIDN’T HAVE A CHANCE TO SAVE GRANDMA, THEY SAY, BUT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE NOW. THE FAMILY SAYS THAT EVERYTHING MUST BE DONE TO PREVENT HUMAN TRAGEDIES LIKE THE ONE THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING. AND THERE ARE 127 NEW CASES IN QUÉBEC FOR A TOTAL OF 121. THAT’S 27 NEW CASES, RATHER, FOR A TOTAL OF 121. BACK TO TORONTO.>>Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, THANKS, ANITA. THERE ARE DIRE WARNINGS TONIGHT IN THE UNITED STATES ABOUT ITS ABILITY TO TREAT THE CORONAVIRUS, WITH FEARS THAT SUPPLIES THAT ARE ABOUT TO RUN OUT. THAT COMES AS THE NUMBER OF REPORTED CORONAVIRUS CASES CLIMBS PAST 13,000. NEW YORK STATE HAS THE MOST CASES, MORE THAN 5,300. THE JUMP IS BELIEVED DUE TO AN INCREASE IN TESTING. AND LATE TONIGHT AN EXTRAORDINARY STEP FROM THE GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA. HE’S PUTTING THE ENTIRE STATE INTO LOCKDOWN, ORDERING ALL 40 MILLION RESIDENTS TO STAY HOME. AS PAUL HUNTER TELLS US, IT’S PART OF THE INCREASED ACTION ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO PREVENT THE SPREAD.>>Reporter: UNTIL TODAY THE SIGHT OF SPRING BREAK CROWDS IGNORING SOCIAL DISTANCING NOW FORCED INTO IT AS AUTHORITIES IN MIAMI BEACH TODAY SHUT THE BEACH ALL TOGETHER. IN FAR AWAY NEW YORK, THE HARDEST HIT REGION IN THE COUNTRY, NEW RULES TODAY FOR WORKPLACES. ANY STILL OPERATING MUST NOW DO SO WITH JUST 25% STAFF AT MOST. MEDICAL SUPPLIES IN NEW YORK CITY, MEANWHILE, MAY NOT LAST A MONTH. AND ON THE DESPERATE NEED FOR MORE MEDICAL GEAR, THE STATE’S GOVERNOR TODAY IMPLORED WASHINGTON –>>THIS IS A WAR. TREAT IT LIKE A WAR. SAY TO THE MANUFACTURERS IN THIS COUNTRY, I NEED YOU TO BUILD THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT QUICKLY.>>Reporter: BUT ON THE MANY CALLS FOR MORE GEAR BROADLY, DONALD TRUMP TODAY SUGGESTED THE ONUS SHOULD, IN FACT, BE ON STATE GOVERNMENTS.>>President Donald Trump: FIRST OF ALL, GOVERNORS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING A LOT OF THIS WORK AND THEY’RE DOING A LOT OF THIS WORK. AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE BUYING VAST AMOUNT OF AREAS AND SHIPPING THEM. YOU KNOW, WE’RE NOT A SHIPPING CLERK.>>Reporter: TRUMP DID SAY THAT MILLIONS OF MEDICAL MASKS ARE BEING PRODUCED, THOUGH PROVIDERS INSIST THERE’S NOT NEARLY ENOUGH. THE NEED SO GREAT THAT THEY’RE NOW BEING TOLD TO WEAR SCARVES OR BANDANAS, IF NOTHING ELSE. MEANWHILE IN WASHINGTON STATE, THE DIRE NEED IS FOR MORE HOSPITAL BEDS NOW. SO THEY’RE BUILDING AN AD HOC FACILITY ON A SOCCER FIELD. WHILE TRUMP CONSIDERS AN OFFER TO USE EMPTIED CRUISE SHIPS FOR HOSPITAL OVERFLOW.>>President Donald Trump: SOME SHIPS THAT WOULD BE IDEALLY SUITED FOR WHAT WE’RE DOING. AND CERTAINLY THEY HAVE A LOT OF ROOMS. THEY’RE BIG AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF ROOMS.>>Reporter: TODAY A SOBERING ADVISORY FROM THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT URGING ALL AMERICANS FROM TRAVELLING ANYWHERE OVERSEAS. IT’S THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE WARNING. AND TO THOSE ALREADY OVERSEAS THE MESSAGE IS EQUALLY BLUNT — RETURN HOME NOW. IF NOT, THE U.S. GOVERNMENT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HELP. PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Andrew: AND ITALY’S REPORTED DEATH TOLL FROM THIS CORONAVIRUS HAS SURPASSED CHINA’S. ITALY REGISTERED 427 DEATHS TODAY, BRINGING THEIR TOTAL TO MORE THAN 3,400. CHINA BY COMPARISON HAS REPORTED MORE THAN 3,200 DEATHS. ITALY DOES HAVE A LARGE ELDERLY POPULATION. A CEMETERY NORTHEAST OF MILAN HAS BEEN SO OVERWHELMED, IN FACT, THAT THE MILITARY HAD TO TRANSPORT BODIES>>NOW CLEARLY A TO TRANSPORT BODIES TO NEIGHBOURING TOWNS.>>NOW CLEARLY A BIG FOCUS OF THE PANDEMIC RESPONSE IS PEOPLE’S PHYSICAL HEALTH.>>Adrienne: BUT THERE’S A PROFOUND IMPACT ON MENTAL HEALTH TOO.>>IT’S PARTICULARLY AROUND THE ANXIETIES AROUND THE UNKNOWN.>>Adrienne: ANXIETY, FEAR, ISOLATION. UP NEXT, THE CALLS FOR HELP AND THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE.>>Andrew: YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE ANSWERS. OUR PANEL IS HERE.>>HI, NAN.>>Adrienne: PLUS, CHRIS GLOVER AND H (*)>>Andrew: SOCIAL DISTANCING MAY HELP TO SLOW DOWN THE CONTAGIAN, BUT IT ALSO BREAKS DOWN SOCIAL CONNECTION. AND FOR THOSE WHO ALREADY FELT ISOLATED OR TRAPPED, THE RESPONSE TO COVID-19 PRESENTS ITS OWN RISK. HERE’S IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS ON THE MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGE AND THE PEOPLE RISING TO MEET IT.>>Reporter: IT’S THE EMPTINESS THAT CAN BE OVERWHELMING. FOR MANY THE PANDEMIC IS FILLING THEM WITH A MILD SENSE OF PANIC AND A LOOMING SENSE OF DREAD. IN THE NEW REALITY OF SELF-ISOLATION AND SOCIAL DISTANCING, EVEN MORE ARE LOOKING FOR HELP ONLINE. ON THE BIG WHITE WALL, AN ANONYMOUS MENTAL HEALTH FORUM, THE NUMBER OF ANXIOUS POSTS ABOUT THE CORONAVIRUS ARE SURGING.>>THE ANXIETIES ARE ABOUT THE SHUTDOWNS –>>Reporter: IAN TORIN OVERSEES THE WALL, THE MENTAL HEALTH PRACTITIONERS WHO MONITOR THE SITE.>>PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR HEALTH PRACTITIONERS WHO MONITOR THE SITE.>>PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR LOVED ONES, AND THAT IMPACTS ON THE DAY-TO-DAY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE’S A SHUTDOWN AND PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO GET OUT AND ABOUT, IT INCREASES THOSE ANXIETIES.>>Reporter: WE MET CASSANDRA WHEN SHE BEGAN TO RELY ON THE BIG WHITE WALL TO HELP WITH HER ANXIETY. IT’S MORE OF A LIFELINE NOW.>>THERE’S STILL A LOT OF STRESS, BUT I THINK THAT WITH THE RIGHT SUPPORTS, BEING WITH MY FAMILY AND USING THE BIG WHITE WALL COMMUNITY AND JUST GENERALLY TRYING TO STAY POSITIVE, I THINK THAT IT’S GOING TO BE OKAY.>>Reporter: IT’S THE UNNERVING TRUTH AS MORE PEOPLE ARE TOLD TO STAY AWAY FROM EACH OTHER AND MORE NEED EACH OTHER TOO. ON KIDS’ HELP PHONES THE CALLS AND TEXTS FROM ANXIOUS YOUNG PEOPLE AND ADULTS ARE POURING IN.>>THEY’RE ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THE ISOLATION AND COMES THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. EVERYONE IS IN A STATE OF WORRY AND ANGST AND ANXIETY. INCREASED ABUSE, INCREASED BULLYING OR CYBERBULLYING, THOSE KIND OF BEHAVIOURS CAN HEIGHTEN WITH AN EMOTIONALLY CHARGED TIME.>>Reporter: IT IS ALARMING AND YET WHAT IS GAINING TRACTION HERE TOO, THE WILLINGNESS TO OFFER A HAND. WHEN THE LINE CALLED OUT FOR HELP, MORE THAN 800 PEOPLE VOLUNTEERED. AND ONLINE, MORE RESOURCES ARE ADDED DAILY, GUIDES OFFERING HOW TO COPE AND HOW TO TALK ABOUT THE FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN.>>OH, MY GOD, THAT’S SO HUGE.>>Reporter: THEN THERE’S THIS — AN EMERGING ALTERNATIVE TO THE REAL THING. TERESA SMITH ORGANIZED A VIRTUAL WINE AND CHEESE WITH FRIENDS.>>WE AGREED THAT WHILE WE NEED TO STAY AWAY FROM EACH OTHER, WE STILL NEED TO CREATE SOCIAL CONNECTIONS.>>CHEERS!>>Reporter: IT’S A TOAST TO THE NEED TO CONNECT, NOW MORE THAN EVER. IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Adrienne: WHAT A GREAT IDEA. ANOTHER GROUP PARTICULARLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO LONELINESS AND ISOLATION RIGHT NOW IS SENIORS. BUT AS CHRIS GLOVER EXPLAINS, THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN HELP WHILE KEEPING A SAFE DISTANCE.>>Reporter: 92% OF CANADA’S SENIORS LIVE INDEPENDENTLY AT HOME AND THEY’RE ALSO AT MOST RISK IN THIS PANDEMIC. SO STAYING AWAY FROM YOUR ELDERLY LOVED ONES IS THE BEST DEFENCE, BUT THAT ISOLATION COMES WITH CONSEQUENCES. KEEPING SENIORS ENGAGED IS ON ALL OF US, NOW MORE THAN EVER. MUSIC IS A GREAT WAY TO EASE STRESS. TRY MAKING A PLAYLIST ON AN OLD DEVICE WITH SOME OF THE GREATS LIKE SINATRA AND BILLIE HOLIDAY. KEEPING THEIR MINDS STIMULATED IS KEY, BUT ANYTHING THAT YOU DROP OFF FOR A SENIOR MUST BE CLEANED. WIPE DOWN THOSE BOOKS, PUZZLES, D.V.D.s AND PUT THEM IN A ZIPLOC BAG. THEY GET SOME NEW ENTERTAINMENT AND YOU KEEP YOUR GERMS TO YOURSELF. GET THE KIDS INVOLVED SENDING ARTWORK. THE SENIOR IN YOUR LIFE WILL ENJOY IT FOR DAYS, PLUS IT WILL OCCUPY THE LITTLE ONES — AN ADDED BONUS. COVID-19 IS CATAPULTING MANY SENIORS, INCLUDING MY OWN NAN INTO THE DIGITAL AGE. HI, NAN, WHY CAN’T I SEE YOU? CAN YOU SEE ME? OH, THERE YOU ARE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING TODAY?>>I WAS JUST GIVEN A LIST OF PEOPLE TO CALL FROM THE CHURCH TO SEE IF THEY’RE FINE.>>Reporter: DO THINGS TOGETHER, BUT SEPARATELY. WATCH A FAVOURITE SHOW OR SHARE SOME TEA. HEY, NAN, WHAT KIND OF TEA ARE YOU HAVING?>>I AM HAVING EARL GREY TEA TODAY.>>Reporter: I’M HAVING LEMON AND GINGER.>>OH, LOVELY.>>Reporter: STAYING ACTIVE IS HARD ALL COOPED UP, EVEN DOING LAPS AROUND THE HOME HELPS. BUT AVOIDING STAIRS IS IMPORTANT IF MOBILITY OR BALANCE IS AN ISSUE. BUT STRETCHING CAN HELP PEOPLE FEEL NIMBLE AND FOR THOSE MISSING THE GREENS, THEY CAN GRAB A PUTTER, BALL AND CUP. ALL YOU NEED IS A BIT OF SPACE. EVEN IF IT’S A MISS WITH A LITTLE CREATIVITY AROUND THE HOME, WE’LL ALL GET THROUGH THIS TOGETHER. CHRIS GLOVER, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Adrienne: WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIAL DISTANCING, HOW CLOSE IS TOO CLOSE. WE LOOK AT THE CONFUSION ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT, FIRST, ROSIE IS HERE WITH “AT ISSUE.”>>Rosemary: THAT’S RIGHT, WITH THE NUMBER OF COVID-19 CASES IN CANADA ON THE RISE, THE POLITICAL RESPONSE HAS ALSO BEEN ESCALATING. CLOSING BORDERS, BILLIONS IN FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND CALLS FOR CANADIANS TO STAY HOME. HOW IS THE GOVERNMENT MANAGING IN THIS UNPRECEDENTED TIME? CHANTAL AND ANDREW WILL JOIN ME AFTER THE BREAK. (*)>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: WE ARE WORKING TO SLOW THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS. WE’RE TAKING STEPS TO SUPPORT YOU THROUGH TOUGH TIMES. THERE IS NOTHING WE WON’T DO TO KEEP YOU SAFE AND TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH.>>Rosemary: THE CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER ADDRESSED PEOPLE FOR THE FOURTH DAY IN A ROW AND TO TELL PEOPLE TO STAY HOME AND TO TRY TO REASSURE THEM THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL BE THERE TO HELP BUT IN THESE EXTRAORDINARY TIMES DO WE NEED TO SEE MORE EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES? HOW IS OTTAWA MANAGING THE CRISIS SO FAR? IT’S THURSDAY AND I’M HERE WITH “AT ISSUE.” BUT WE ARE DOING OUR PART WITH SOCIAL DISTANCING AND CHANTAL HEBERT IS STILL IN MONTRÉAL BUT NOT IN THE STUDIO. ANDREW COYNE IS STILL IN TORONTO, BUT, AGAIN, NOT IN THE STUDIO. THANK YOU BOTH. I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. OBVIOUSLY THINGS HAVE CHANGED PRETTY QUICKLY AND DRAMATICALLY SINCE WE LAST TALKED. AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS RAMPED UP ITS RESPONSE, BOTH IN TERMS OF A PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE AND AN ECONOMIC RESPONSE. ANDREW, MAYBE I’LL JUST START WITH YOU IN TERMS OF YOUR ASSESSMENT ON HOW THE GOVERNMENT IS MANAGING THIS.>>WELL, YOU COULD SAY THAT THEY’RE LATE WITH THIS. AND YOU WOULD BE — THEY WOULD BE IN COMPANY WITH VIRTUALLY EVERY OTHER GOVERNMENT ON EARTH. EVERYBODY HAS BEEN DISARMED BY HOW RAPIDLY THIS THING HAS GROWN. I THINK THAT EVERYONE WAS BEHIND THE CURVE, WITH EXCEPTIONS IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY. BUT SHORT OF THEM, IT’S HARD TO CRITICISE — BECAUSE I CERTAINLY WASN’T — DIDN’T SEE THE NECESSITY FOR AS MUCH AS THEY FIND THEY’RE H WASN’T — DIDN’T SEE THE NECESSITY FOR AS MUCH AS THEY FIND THEY’RE HAVING TO DO AS YOU SAY BOTH ON THE ECONOMIC FRONT AND ON THE ECONOMIC FRONT AND IN TERMS OF CLOSING THE BORDER. THESE ARE EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES THAT THEY ARE IMPROVISING ON THE FLY IN THE FACE OF A FEW DAYS. AND, YEAH, I THINK THAT YOU WOULD NOW SAY THEY HAVE MORE OR LESS CAUGHT UP WITH THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION.>>Rosemary: CHANTAL, I’LL GET YOU TO WEIGH IN ON HOW YOU THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING?>>I THINK THAT ON A NUMBER OF FRONTS THE GOVERNMENT HAS DONE THE BEST IT COULD AND WHAT ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT COULD HAVE TRIED TO DO. TO CLOSE THE BORDER WITH A PARTNER AS UNPREDICTABLE AS DONALD TRUMP HAS TO BE A PLUS. AND IT’S BEING DONE IN AS ORDERLY A MANNER AS ONE CAN MANAGE. THIS IS THE LONGEST BORDER IN THE WORLD. AND BETWEEN TWO COUNTRIES THAT ARE INTERTWINED IN SO MANY WAYS. FEDERAL, PROVINCIAL, IT’S BEEN A STRENGTH OF THIS GOVERNMENT THAT IT HAS MANAGED TO BUILD COALITIONS WHEN DEALING WITH BIG ISSUES. THINK OF RENEGOTIATING NAFTA ACROSS PARTY LINES. AND BY AND LARGE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE PREMIERS — ALTHOUGH THEY USUALLY DON’T AGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS — ARE SPEAKING WITH ONE VOICE. AS FAR AS I CAN TELL SO ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS, BUT ALSO IN THE PROVINCES. THERE ARE NO MIRACLE CURES TO THIS AND THERE ARE NO EASY ANSWERS. BUT I THINK THAT MOST CANADIANS WOULD TAKE COMFORT FROM THE FACT THAT THEIR POLITICAL CLASS HAS FOUND A WAY TO SPEAK MORE OR LESS WITH ONE VOICE.>>Rosemary: ANDREW, CAN I GET YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THE BORDER THERE? I MEAN, I WAS TOLD YESTERDAY THAT FROM START TO FINISH, THOUGH THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON DETAILS NOW, ABOUT 22 HOURS TO GET THE AMERICANS ON BOARD WITH THIS IDEA. I MEAN, CHANTAL IS RIGHT, THAT’S FAIRLY EXTRAORDINARY WHEN YOU CONSIDER WHO WE ARE DEALING WITH.>>SHUTTING THE BORDER ON ITS OWN, OF COURSE, WAS NEVER GOING TO BE THE SOLUTION THAT SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS. IT WAS NEVER GOING TO BE A CONTRIBUTOR BECAUSE AS WE NOW KNOW THAT THE RATE OF TRANSMISSION WITHIN OUR BORDERS AND SIMPLY CLOSING THE DOOR TO OUTSIDERS IS NOT GOING TO HELP AT ALL. AND ALL OF THESE MEASURES TO SOME EXTENT DEPEND ON OTHER THINGS. AND EVEN IF YOU ASKED THE GOVERNMENT TO DO THINGS SOONER, YOU’VE GOT TO HAVE ONE EYE ON WHAT THE PUBLIC OPINION WOULD BE READY FOR AND THE DRACONIAN MEASURES THAT WE’RE SUBJECTED TO, INCLUDING THE WAY THAT WE’RE BROADCASTING THIS SHOW. I DON’T THINK THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THE CONSTITUENTS FOR IT TWO WEEKS AGO.>>Rosemary: THAT’S A GOOD POINT THAT YOU HAVE TO BUILD UP THE ABILITY TO DO THAT WITHIN THE POPULATION. JUST A LAST POINT TO BOTH OF YOU ON THE PRIME MINISTER, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT A POINT TO COME OUT EVERY DAY. TODAY HE DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A PARTICULAR MESSAGE. IT WAS REALLY TO REPEAT MESSAGES TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THINGS. I GUESS TO REASSURE PEOPLE. HOW DO YOU THINK THAT HE’S DOING, CHANTAL?>>I THINK THAT IT’S IMPORTANT THAT HE DOES THAT. IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT THAT HE HAD A CLEAR MESSAGE EVERY DAY AND NOT JUST CHEERLEADING. I THINK THAT THE TEMPLATE FOR SHOWING UP EVERY DAY, WHICH IS EASIER TO IMPLEMENT AT THE PROVINCIAL LEVEL BECAUSE YOU HAVE MANY MORE THINGS THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT, AND WITH FRANÇOIS LEGAULT HERE IN QUÉBEC DOING IT VERY SUCCESSFULLY. BUT DON’T FORGET THAT THIS TEMPLATE IN THIS PROVINCE COMES FROM THE ICE STORM AND THE WAY OF SHOWING UP EVERY DAY WITH PRACTICAL IDEAS. I THINK THAT IT’S HARDER FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HAVE A NEW PRACTICAL MESSAGE EVERY DAY, SO THE PRIME MINISTER IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT JUST TO HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT AND SOUND LIKE HE’S GOT NOTHING TO SAY.>>Rosemary: ANDREW?>>THIS REALLY CHALLENGES ALL POLITICAL LEADERS AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE TO SMARTEN UP IN A HURRY AND PUT TRADITIONAL POLITICS ASIDE. PEOPLE ARE BADLY FRIGHTENED BY THIS AND THEY’RE LOOKING AS THEY DO IN TIMES OF CRISIS TO PEOPLE IN POSITIONS OF LEADERSHIP TO REASSURE THEM THIS IS THE WAY FORWARD. IT’S A SHAME THAT TRUDEAU BY THE TIME THAT THIS CRISIS WAS A DIMINISHED FIGURE IN CANADIAN POLITICS DIDN’T HAVE THE STATURE THAT HE WOULD HAVE HAD THREE YEARS AGO. BUT PERHAPS WE’LL SEE IF HIS PERFORMANCE IN THE CRISIS MAY LEAD PEOPLE TO RALLY AROUND HIM. TRADITIONALLY PEOPLE DO TEND TO RALLY AROUND LEADERS IN TIMES LIKE THIS AND WE’LL SEE IF THAT HAPPENS HERE.>>Rosemary: OKAY. WELL, I’M JUST REASSURED THAT I GET TO SEE YOU ON THURSDAYS. THAT HELPS ME TO GET THROUGH AND THINGS ARE SORT OF NORMAL STILL. THANK YOU BOTH. BEFORE WE GO, BE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE TO “AT ISSUE” THE PODCAST FOR EXTRA CONTENT. THIS WEEK WE’LL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT REALLY THE ONLY STORY OUT THERE, BUT IN THIS CASE THE ROLE OF THE OPPOSITION PARTIES IN THE TIME OF A PANDEMIC. LOOK FOR IT ON ANY MAJOR PODCAST APP AND OUR WEBSITE, cbcnews.ca/thenational. THAT’S IT FOR NOW. BACK TO ADRIENNE AND ANDREW IN TORONTO.>>Andrew: WHEN WE COME BACK, WHEN I WASH MY HANDS SHOULD I USE WARM OR COLD WATER? THE DOCTORS ARE ON STANDBY TO TAKE THIS AND MORE OF YOUR QUESTIONS AFTER THE B>>Andrew: WELCOME BACK. IT’S THAT TIME OF THE PROGRAMME WHERE WE TAKE YOUR CORONAVIRUS QUESTIONS AND PUT THEM TO A TEAM OF DOCTORS. TONIGHT WE’VE GOT DR. ISSAC BOGOCH, INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST IN TORONTO. AND DR. TESLEEN NIMJI, AN EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN AT HUMBER RIVER HOSPITAL. GOOD EVENING TO THE BOTH OF YOU. DR. BOGOCH, QUESTION NUMBER ONE. WHEN I WASH MY HANDS SHOULD I USE WARM OR COLD WATER?>>YOU KNOW, AT A VERY PRACTICAL LEVEL IT DOESN’T MATTER. AS LONG AS YOU WASH YOUR HANDS WITH SOAP AND WATER, THAT’S ALL THAT MATTERS. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE’S NO SOAP AND WATER AVAILABLE, ALCOHOL HAND SANITIZER WITH AT LEAST 60% ALCOHOL IS ALSO JUST SUFFICIENT AS WELL.>>Andrew: BUT DOES TEMPERATURE MATTER? BECAUSE WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD QUESTIONS WHERE PEOPLE ASK IF I HAD MAIL OR MY NEWSPAPER, IS THERE A WAY TO DISINFECT THAT — I DON’T KNOW — BY STICKING IT IN THE FREEZER OR SOMETHING?>>THE VIRUS CAN STICK TO SURFACES AND A LOT DEPENDS ON THE TEMPERATURE AND THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND IT. AND IT CAN STICK TO SURFACES FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS TO TWO DAYS, DEPENDING ON THE TEMPERATURE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO IF YOU’RE TALKING HIGH CONTACT SURFACES, JUST WASH YOUR HANDS AFTERWARDS.>>Andrew: DR. NIMJI, MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR YOU. MY APARTMENT COMPLEX HAS SHARED LAUNDRY FACILITIES. IS THAT RISKY? AND I’M THINKING ON BOTH THE OUTSIDE OF THE MACHINE AND ON THE INSIDE.>>AS LONG AS YOU USE REGULAR LAUNDRY DETERGENT AND SOAP, AND THE REGULAR RINSE CYCLE, YOU’RE FINE, AS FAR AS THE LAUNDRY PORTION ITSELF. WHEN IT COMES TO BEING IN THE LAUNDRY ROOM, WHICH IS A SHARED FACILITY, KEEP YOUR TWO METRE DISTANCE. MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE WASHING YOUR HANDS EITHER WITH SOAP AND WATER BEFORE AND AFTER OR WITH THE ALCOHOL DISINFECTANT.>>Andrew: WE ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING IN APARTMENT UNITS AND WHETHER THERE’S ANY RISK OF THE VIRUS BEING TRANSMITTED THAT WAY?>>FOR THIS PARTICULAR VIRUS WE DON’T HAVE ANY DATA THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. SO I DON’T THINK THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO SORT OF CHANGE THE WAY THAT YOU USE YOUR HEATER OR AIR CONDITIONER IN YOUR LIVING FACILITY.>>Andrew: OKAY. DR. BOGOCH, SHOULD I GET THE PNEUMONIA VACCINE SINCE COVID-19 CAN CAUSE PNEUMONIA?>>YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT IT’S AN EXCELLENT IDEA FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE RECOMMENDED TO GET THE VACCINE TO ABSOLUTELY GET THE VACCINE. IF THAT’S PART OF SOMEONE’S ROUTINE VACCINE SCHEDULE, 100% IT’S A GREAT IDEA TO GET THIS VACCINE. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE KNOW THAT WE DON’T HAVE A VACCINE YET FOR THIS INFECTION. WE DON’T HAVE A TARGETED ANTI-VIRAL DRUG FOR THIS INFECTION. AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE IN OPTIMAL HEALTH IN CASE THEY GET THIS INFECTION. THEY’LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF FIGHTING IT OFF.>>Andrew: DR. NIMJI, NEXT QUESTION FOR YOU, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO RECOVER FROM COVID-19?>>SO IT DEPENDS, AGAIN ON YOUR STATE OF HEALTH BEFORE YOU GET COVID-19. AND HOW BADLY IT IMPACTS YOU. SO IF YOU’RE AN AVERAGE HEALTHY ADULT, MAYBE A WEEK AND MAYBE LONGER, BUT NOT LONGER. AND SIMILAR TO IF YOU HAD THE FLU. THEN CERTAINLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SICKER AND ARE REQUIRING HOSPITALIZATION, THAT WOULD MOVE INTO WEEKS. AND THE RILE END OF THE SPECTRUM FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDING I.C.U., AND THAT’S FOR THE COMPLICATION THAT WE CALL ARDS, OR ACUTE RESPIRATORY DISTRESS SYNDROME, THEN YOU TALK MULTIPLE WEEKS.>>Andrew: AND IF AND WHEN YOU DO RECOVER, HOW SOON BEFORE YOU CAN SEE OTHER PEOPLE?>>YEAH, SO THERE WERE SOME STUDIES OUT THERE ON WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE WERE HAVING POSITIVES OR NEGATIVES IF THEY WERE RESWABBING AND THESE ARE TESTS THAT ARE NOT IDEAL. ONCE YOU RECOVER THERE’S NO REASON THAT WE THINK THAT YOU COULD GET AN INFECTION AGAIN AND ONCE YOU’RE A-SYMPTOMATIC, ABOUT 24-48 HOURS FOLLOWING THAT INFECTION AND THEN YOU’RE OKAY TO START SEEING OTHER PEOPLE AGAIN AND NOT BEING WORRIED ABOUT INFECTING THEM.>>Andrew: ALL RIGHT, THAT’S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.>>THANK YOU.>>Andrew: NOW AS WE MENTIONED WE WILL BE ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT COVID-19 EVERY NIGHT SO SEND US THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. MESSAGE US DIRECTLY ON INSTAGRAM @CBCTHENATIONAL OR SEND AN EMAIL TO [email protected]>>Adrienne: WE KNOW THAT THE PANDEMIC HAS PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON EDGE AND SOME ARE LASHING OUT AT STRANGERS FOR PUBLIC BEHAVIOUR THEY THINK THAT PUTS OTHERS AT RISK. TINA LOVGREEN LOOKED FOR THE LINE BETWEEN VALID CONCERN AND NEEDLESS SHAMING.>>Reporter: ON THE FIRST DAY OF SPRING THE WHITE ROCK AREA IS BUSTLING. YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW THAT THERE’S A PANDEMIC. AND THERE IS VERY LITTLE ROOM TO KEEP YOUR DISTANCE. ESPECIALLY IN THIS LINEUP OUTSIDE OF A CANNABIS DISPENSARY.>>THEY’RE JUST STANDING LIKE SHEEP AND THEY’RE NOT THINKING ABOUT ANYBODY BUT THEMSELVES. EVERYBODY HAS TO GOT TO COME TOGETHER IN THIS.>>Reporter: PATRICIA ROGERS HAS A FRONT ROW SEAT TO IT ALL. SHE SAYS SHE’S DOING HER PART BY STAYING INSIDE, BUT AS FOR OTHERS –>>PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING THE WHOLE VIRUS SERIOUS ENOUGH, ABSOLUTELY NOT.>>Reporter: SOME HAVE GONE ONLINE TO CRITICISE OTHER PEOPLE’S BEHAVIOUR. ONE PEOPLE TWEETED, CHAOS ON WHITE ROCK BEACH, RESTAURANTS PACKED AND HUGE LINES AND NOBODY IS SOCIAL DISTANCING. IT’S SCARY AND HEARTBREAKING. AND ANOTHER, CURVING THE CURVE, I GUESS. ONE PROBLEM IS CONTINUED CONFUSION. CAN YOU GO OUTSIDE? LIKE VANCOUVERITES ARE. AND WHAT CAN YOU DO THERE? IN TRUE WEST COAST FASHION MANY ARE KEEPING UP WITH THEIR FITNESS AS GYMS HAVE SHUT DOWN.>>I’M CERTAINLY PRACTISING SOCIAL DISTANCING, YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU’RE SIX FEET AWAY AND SO YOU’RE FINE.>>MOVE BACK A LITTLE BIT.>>WE HUNG OUT YESTERDAY AND WENT TO THE PARK AND JUST HAD BLANKETS THAT WERE LIKE FOUR FEET AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.>>THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL. AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.>>Reporter: THE B.C. PROVINCIAL HEALTH OFFICER SAYS THAT YOU CAN GO OUTSIDE, JUST LEAVE TWO METRES BETWEEN YOU AND OTHERS.>>YOU CAN WALK YOUR PET, YOU CAN GO FOR A BIKE RIDE. YOU CAN PLAY WITH YOUR KIDS. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO DO IN A SMALL GROUP AS A FAMILY TOGETHER.>>Reporter: BUT IF YOU HAVE SYMPTOMS OR RETURNING FROM TRAVEL, IT’S A DIFFERENT STORY. YOU SHOULDN’T EVEN BE GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE. BUT IT’S POSSIBLE TO KEEP YOUR DISTANCE AND STILL CONNECT, SAYS THIS PSYCHOLOGIST.>>WE CAN STILL INTERACT WITH ONE ANOTHER VIRTUALLY, DIGITALLY, RIGHT? LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.>>Reporter: JUST DON’T COME TOO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER IN PERSON. TINA LOVGREEN, CBC NEWS, VANCOUVER.>>Adrienne: COMING UP, THE DEBATE OVER THE UPCOMING OLYMPICS RAGES ON AND ATHLETES ARE SPEAKING OUT. BUT, FIRST, THE CHALLENGE OF STAYING HOME FOR DAYS ON END HAS LED TO A LOT OF CREATIVITY.>>ARE YOU READY FOR A CABINET MEETING?>>Adrienne: SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR LONG-AWAITED TICKETS TO THE HIT “HAMILTON” WERE REFUNDED. DO LIKE THESE GUYS AND PUT ON YOUR OWN SHOW.>>* WE’VE GOT IT MADE IN THE SHADE *>>Adrienne: FIND YOURSELF STARING OUT OF A WINDOW FOR HOURS ON END? GRAB A SOCK PUPPET AND MAKE IT A NAME. — GAME. BUT REMEMBER ALWAYS JUMP IN MODERATION. YOU CAN’T GO OUT DANCING? HOW ABOUT HOLDING YOUR OWN ELABORATELY CHOREOGRAPHED RAZE? BUT OUR ABSOLUTE FAVOURITE FIX HAS TO BE THIS SOLUTION TO SHUTTERED GYMS EVERYWHERE. IF YOU DON’T HAVE A TREADMILL AT HOME, TRY A LITTLE SOAP AND WATER AND A LOT OF BALANCE AND YOU’RE OFF TO THE RACES.>>Adrienne: WELCOME BACK. DESPITE THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, THE TOKYO 2020 OLYMPICS ARE STILL SLATED TO START IN JULY, ALTHOUGH PRESSURE IS BUILDING TO RECONSIDER. AFTER SPEAKING WITH JAPAN’S PRIME MINISTER, EVEN U.S. PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHO WAS RECENTLY ALL FOR THE GAMES GOING AHEAD, ISN’T SO SURE.>>President Donald Trump: WE DON’T KNOW WHAT HIS DECISION IS, BUT WE’D LIVE WITH HIS DECISION. IT’S A TOUGH SITUATION. THEY’VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB AND THEN HE GOT HIT WITH THE SAME THING THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD GOT HIT WITH UNEXPECTEDLY. HE HAS TOLD US THAT HE’S NOT MADE A DECISION AS TO WHAT TO DO.>>Adrienne: BUT THE INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE APPEARS TO HAVE NO DOUBTS. AS FAR AS ITS CONCERNED IT’S ALL SYSTEMS GO FOR TOKYO 2020, PROMPTING SOME ANGER FROM ATHLETES, INCLUDING CANADIAN HOCKEY LEGEND HAYLEY WICKENHEISER, AN I.O.C. MEMBER AND A DOCTOR IN TRAINING. SHE SHARED HER THOUGHTS ON ALL OF THIS. [Applause] IN THIS NEW WORLD OF SOCIAL DISTANCING, CERTAINLY NO HANDSHAKES. IT CAN MAKE YOU WINCE TO WATCH THE PASSING OF THE OLYMPIC TORCH. THE RELAY IS STILL HAPPENING, LIMITED, NO CROWDS, BUT STILL TRAVELLING TOWARDS TOKYO. AND TO HEAR THE I.O.C. TALK, THE OLYMPICS WILL GO AHEAD ON JULY 24th.>>WE HAVE STILL MORE THAN FOUR MONTHS TO GO.>>Adrienne: WITH THE VIRUS RAGING IN WAVES GLOBALLY, OLYMPIC BOSSES SOMEHOW THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE TIME TO MAKE IT WORK. THE V.P. OF JAPAN’S OLYMPIC COMMITTEE TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19 AND YET STILL STANDS BY THE CONTINUING. NOT SO OF ALL OF THE ATHLETES. CANADA’S HAYLEY WICKENHEISER AND AN I.O.C. ATHLETES REP IS FURIOUS.>>THEY’RE PUTTING SPORT ABOVE HEALTH AND HUMANITY.>>Adrienne: IN A LENGTHY POST SHE CALLED THE CONVICTION TO PRESS ON “IRRESPONSIBLE.”>>THE ATHLETES OF THE WORLD CAN’T TRAIN. MANY ATHLETES’ POOLS ARE CLOSED. THE GYMS ARES CLOSED, THE FACILITIES ARE CLOSED. BUT MUCH MORE THAN THAT, THEY’RE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES BECAUSE IT’S NOT SAFE AND WE SHOULDN’T BE THERE.>>Adrienne: IT’S IN JAPAN’S INTEREST TO DELAY A DECISION. IT NEEDS THE REVENUE OF THE GAMES, LIKELY WANTS TO HOLD OUT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE BEFORE CANCELLING. IN THE INTERIM, SLOWLY OTHER ATHLETES ARE SPEAKING OUT, BUT THE I.O.C. IT SEEMS HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR, WICKENHEISER’S WORDS ARE NOT APPRECIATED.>>I HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED SOME INTERESTING MESSAGES FROM THE I.O.C. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT’S THE WAY IT WORKS. WHEN YOU FALL OUT OF LINE IN THE I.O.C., THEY DON’T LIKE THAT.>>Adrienne: BUT THIS, SHE SAYS, IS A HILL TO DIE ON. NOW TRAINING TO BE A DOCTOR, HAYLEY WICKENHEISER HEARS THE WORRIES FROM THE WORLD OF MEDICINE AND SPORT. SHE’S NOT GOING TO STAY QUIET.>>Andrew: WELL, IN TIMES OF TROUBLE PEOPLE SHOW THEIR TRUE MEDDLE AND CANADIANS ARE DOING THAT IN SPADES. WE’RE GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW A VANCOUVER LUMBER STORE IS HELPING A NEARBY HOSPITAL.>>Adrienne: FIRST THOUGH, BECAUSE OF COVID-19 B.C. MED STUDENTS AREN’T IN CLASS BUT THEY’RE NOT PUTTING THEIR FEET UP — THEY SENT A MESSAGE TO FRONTLINE HEALTH WORKERS THAT WE’RE HERE TO HELP.>>AND GETTING AN EMAIL FROM THE U.B.C. MEDICAL STUDENTS THAT THEY WANTED TO HELP US WITH CHILD CARE, WITH ERRANDS, TO RESPONDING TO THINGS, WAS OVERWHELMING.>>SO FAR OVER 500 VOLUNTEERS HAVE PUT THEIR NAMES FORWARD AND OVER 70 REQUESTS FROM PHYSICIANS HAVE COME IN.>>WE’RE HAVING TO STRUGGLE TO FIND CHILD CARE. CHILD CARE PROVIDERS ARE BECOMING SICK. MY WIFE WORKS IN PANDEMIC RESPONSE AS WELL. I SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR HELP AND I RECEIVED AN ANSWER WITHIN 12 HOURS.>>OUR MESSAGE TO DOCTORS RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU. WE WANT TO HELP YOU IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.>>IT’S AN HONOUR TO HAVE STUDENTS LIKE THESE WHO ARE WILLING TO PUT THEMSELVES — TO PUT YOURSELVES OUT THERE IN A TIME OF NEED TO HELP PHYSICIANS OUT IN THIS TIME.>>Adrienne: THESE N95 MASKS ARE WHAT MANY HOSPITALS AND FRONTLINE HEALTH CARE WORKERS REALLY NEED TO PROTECT THEM AGAINST THE CORONAVIRUS, BUT SOME ARE STARTING TO RUN LOW. SO ONE VANCOUVER STORE STEPPED UP AND THAT’S OUR “MOMENT.” (*)>>WE HAD A CALL FROM WINDSOR PLYWOOD AND SHE MENTIONED THEY HAD SOME N95 MASKS IN THEIR STORAGE AND THEY WANTED TO DONATE THEM TO LION’S GATE HOSPITAL.>>I DIDN’T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A SHORTAGE AT THE HOSPITALS SO I ASKED MY WIFE IF THERE WAS A SHORTAGE AND SHE SAID, YEAH. THE NEXT MORNING I LET MY BOSS HERE AT WINDSOR KNOW AND SHE PULLED THEM OFF THE SHELVES RIGHT AWAY. WE DONATED A COUPLE HUNDRED MASKS AND THEY’RE SUPER DUPER EXCITED TO GET THEM.>>THIS LOVELY GENTLEMAN DROVE ALL THE WAY FROM VANCOUVER TO DELIVER THE TWO BOXES. THEN I GOT ANOTHER CALL TODAY AND THEY HAD MORE BOXES.>>FRONTLINE PEOPLE NEED THEM, SO THEY SHOULD HAVE THEM.>>THEY WERE DELIVERED WITH A SMILE AND RECEIVED WITH A BIG SMILE AS WELL.>>Andrew: SO CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A SUPPLY OF MASKS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO DO WOODWORKING, RIGHT. AND SO EXPOSURE TO SAW DUST AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF THING. BUT IT’S TRIGGERED A WAVE OF GENEROSITY WITH OTHER COMPANIES HEARD WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND WANTING TO DO THE SAME.>>Adrienne: THIS IS A REALLY TOUGH TIME, RIGHT, AND EVERYBODY GETS THAT. BUT I PROMISE YOU THAT EVERY DAY THAT WE SEE TERRIBLE THINGS HAPPENING, WE SEE, YOU KNOW, A BARRAGE OF THESE WONDERFUL MOMENTS. AND THAT’S CANADA. AND WE’RE GOING TO KEEP WATCHING ALL OF THAT. THAT IS “THE NATIONAL” FOR MARCH 19th. GOODNIGHT.>>Andrew: GOODNIGHT.

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